But there's also the problem that Silke [von der Emde] was talking about--about how you immediately feel like a better person once you've gone, kind of like giving money to the starving children on TV. So it's problematic; you have to look at it from a very esoteric point of view. You can't just be like, "I've done that, I've paid my dues. I went to a concentration camp; now you can't ever say that I'm anti-Semitic."

-Do you think there is a purpose to multiple concentration camp visits?

Yeah, I do because it erases the possibility for what Silke was talking about--"I've been to one, my dues are paid. I've experienced this pain. Once I've paid my debt to society, I've confronted the worst ill of the 20th century, let me move on." I don't think that humanity should or can ever move on, and especially neither the German people nor the Jewish people...nor the Polish people, nor the homosexual people. I'm not being exclusive; I'm just speaking from within my own experience. And so by me going back to Buchenwald again, going to Auschwitz twice that would be saying, "I am not going to just say that I've been once, and now I'm a better person for it and never go back again." Yes, [the optimal situation] would be to go back, but with a few months or years in between--not every week. >>

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